I have this great friend, Katie, who when she sees an opportunity that might be useful to you, will send it your way. She is one of those wonderful people who truly wants the absolute best for her friends. And she wants to help make that possible when she can. A few months ago she came across a casting notice for GoRVing. Since Katie knows we live the lifestyle and are avid campers she sent it along to us.
The idea was simple, take photos of your family enjoying camping and the outdoors and send them to the casting director, whom Katie put me in touch with. At first we were reluctant to try since we are a childfree family and figured that it was more the “nuclear family” that they were looking for. We decided to go for it anyway. We set up our own photo shoot and had fun with it. We are DIY types, and enjoy a bit of spontaneity (I think these are some characteristics of RVrs in general), so this was a perfect little project for us!
The casting director was really nice, thanked me for the photos and told me he would send them along to the client, GoRVing. Ultimately, we were right, they were looking for photos with children. A couple and their cat is not the most obvious RVing demographic. I suppose the target market is usually families with children and/or retirees. But, I feel like that is changing and expanding. We have been meeting more people in their 20’s, 30’s and 40’s without kids who find the open road and tiny living appealing; and they are doing it!
The photo shoot was not entirely a waste of time. A couple of weeks ago I saw another casting notice for a TV show for “An outdoorsy couple in their 30’s who enjoy camping” and I sent one of our photos from our impromptu GoRVing shoot, and we booked the job! Not only did we book that job, but it also led to Rob and I both getting our first SAG vouchers. I can’t tell you what the show was yet, but I will when it airs… Also, now I have a bunch of new photos for my website and social media. Yay!
The moral of the story is, always “go for it” because even if you don’t get what you set out to get, it might lead to something else wonderful. Also, Katie is a great friend with an amazing podcast, she is truly an Enthusiasm Enthusiast, and incidentally, that is what her podcast is called, so go check it out. Listen to it on your next RV trip! There is nothing better on a long road trip than a great Podcast!
Here is a sampling of the photos we took! And since I love RVing and talking about it and generally geeking out about RVs, I am going to give GoRVing a bunch of free advertising even though they didn’t pick us for their ad campaign!
Our newest EP, “Paradoxes”, has been sent off for duplication. I will be able to hold it in my hands in about a week or so. I can’t wait. This is the first recording we have made since living in our RV, having a drummer in our band and living in Los Angeles! It is the first recording we have made as the band, JagLyonz!
When we first moved into our RV, Rob and I stopped making music together. We had recorded three albums and played countless shows and tours as the alt/indie/electro duo, Before Dawn. And then we just stopped. In fact, we took an almost two year break. Of course, Rob played and wrote things on his own, because he can’t stop. He mostly focused on scoring some indie films and honing those particular skills. But we quit playing rock music together. We were burned out on touring and we just couldn’t quite figure it out, the tiny living plus the rock and roll.
There is a lot to figure out when you move into an RV. Stuff like, “where am I going to put this thing that I absolutely need?” When your needs are guitars, amplifiers, microphones and recording gear it can get a bit overwhelming. Our amps stayed in a storage unit for many months after moving in. Also, I barely noticed. At the time I had no room in my life both literally and figuratively to focus on music. I wrote some lyrics, but that was the extent of it for the time being.
The first song we ever wrote and recorded together in our RV was our single, Light the Way. We recorded it in the Northwoods of Wisconsin in the summer of 2014. We were in a decidedly acoustic phase for the moment and doing some touring around the woods playing gigs at local bars and open mic nights. We spent that summer parked in my parents driveway/yard. We had access to their house and our amps lived in their basement for the summer. It was a pretty neat time. We would practice in the camper all summer and that became the norm. We even got radio play with our song, Light the Way on WXPR.
At the end of that summer we drove from Wisconsin to California and moved to Los Angeles, in our RV. Rob wanted to continue composing music for film and television, and this is where the work is. It is a good thing that we love it here and that so many of our friends are here, because we have to be here.
After getting over the shock of the move and getting a bit settled, we mutually decided that we missed making the rock and roll together and we wanted to do it again and that we wanted a drummer this time around. Not too long after making this decision, JagLyonz was formed.
A Jaglion is a hybrid cat, not unlike a “Liger”. It is the offspring of a female lion and a male Jaguar. We changed the spelling for Internet search purposes. There is a road near us called, Lyons and we liked that spelling. And lets face it; the letter Z is just cool. The name spoke to us because it is exciting sounding, it is rare, wild and a cat. We love cats! Also, have you seen one? They are gorgeous, fascinating and healthy creatures!
The choosing of the new name definitely inspired us to finally start playing again regularly. The name has also very much informed our sound, which is a bit heavier than Before Dawn, but still rock and roll and super fun with a dash of L.A. glam cheese sauce. If you don’t love us immediately, it is our hope that we will become your guiltiest pleasure.
In August, we were offered a gig as Before Dawn, but we took it as JagLyonz and approached a kid, I say kid because he is only 23, who lives and works in our RV park that we knew played drums. Brett was just super excited to play! It was an incredibly serendipitous mash up. Brett learned our songs and we played our first gig four weeks later. We wrote some new songs, played a few more gigs and started making our first recording.
The five song EP, “Paradoxes” is the first JagLyonz recording. We recorded it entirely in the RV Park in Northern Los Angeles County that we all live in. The guitars and bass were tracked in our 21ft. travel trailer with the majority of the vocals being recorded there as well. For the song “Tonight We Ride Again,” we used the cab of our GMC Sierra as a vocal booth. The drums were all recorded in a community space on the premises of the RV Park.
Recording is never easy, though it is often fun. You definitely have a different set of obstacles when you are recording 1. In a non-studio environment and 2. In small spaces. One’s obstacles tend to inform one’s philosophy and in our case, our recording philosophy.
Ironically, one particular obstacle is our cat, Sunny. She loses her little cat mind when people sing. I don’t know if she thinks we are in pain or what, but she wants it to stop, especially Rob. She paces and tries to walk on the computer and paws at you… So while producing each other’s vocals we have the added job of trying to keep Sunny calm and away from the recording equipment. Fun Fact: In the recording of the song “Up in Smoke” you can audibly hear Rob scream, “Nooooooo!!!!!” at the beginning of the song. Sunny had decided to walk on the computer keyboard and started pushing buttons. Rob chose to keep this organic exclamation in the final mix.
Drums were recorded in the room we often rehearse in, it is about 8’x 8′ and sort of a room within a room down a dark hallway. We had to sneak around a little bit to get the tracks done on the down low, which isn’t always easy to do with drums. Drums are so loud, it is kind of hard to keep them a secret.
Why be so damn DIY you might ask? This goes back to our obstacles, which as I mentioned above informs our philosophy. Most of our obstacles revolve around time, space and money, but the short answer really is, because we can. We want full control and we take pride in our resourcefulness. The recording environment is both important and absolutely unimportant. Recording technology today is such that with some skill, it is possible to make your recording sound like it is anywhere you want to be and the real magic happens in the mixing and mastering.
Speaking of mixing, mastering and resourcefulness check out this device Rob made to facilitate the process, it is quite innovative and helped him be more fluid and efficient with his mixes.
I hope you enjoyed this blog post all about our newest Massive Tiny Recording, “Paradoxes”, by our band, JagLyonz as well as and our adventures in DIY, RV Park recording. If you want to see more recording photos or to know when we play live shows or make more recordings you can follow us on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook.
If you want to support a hardworking, independent band, PLEASE BUY OUR MUSIC and tell other people to buy it too! You can purchase our newest recording through this link, http://www.jaglyonz.com/
We were on tour in Florida with our old band, Before Dawn, which was just us at that point. We we were a duo. It was October of 2009. It was hot and humid, surprisingly so for Halloween. We had played several shows. It was our thinking that October should be a good, comfortable month for camping. Instead of paying for hotels on our drive back to Texas, we decided to tent camp at a State Park.
As you might imagine, tent camping when you have hundreds of pounds of guitar amps, monitor speakers and instruments in your car is a little different than say having a cooler with food and an extra sleeping bag.We went very minimal with our camping gear.After all, it was only going to be an overnight…We had our tent, our air mattress, a sleeping bag and a quilt.
It was actually turning out to be a really beautiful evening.We had driven as far as the panhandle of Florida and it was quite a bit cooler, pleasant really. We were staying at, Falling Waters State Park.Yay, a waterfall!After spending late nights playing loud rock music in dirty bars, and days on end driving, despite being rather exhausted, we were excited to go on a little hike and try our damnedest to change mindsets, relax and enjoy camping?
We really wanted to hike to see the waterfall for which the park is named, but it was getting dark fast and we only made it halfway there before we disappointedly decided we better turn around and go back to camp.We still needed to set up our tent and bed, get firewood and make some sort of dinner from the items we were able to find at the only store that was around for miles. It was a very weird old Walmart… If you spend time traveling the country via interstate, you know exactly what I am talking about.
We were trying so hard to enjoy ourselves!We were trying so hard to accomplish these normally fun camping tasks with enthusiasm.We were trying not to be the tired, cranky babies that we really wanted to be.And, ”jeeze, the temperature really is dropping now that the sun went down.”
We ate our dinner. I don’t remember what it was. We went on our requisite “camper walk” whereby we walk around the campground and voyeuristically observe others enjoying the conveniences of motor homes and travel trailers. We sat by the warm fire and fantasized a bit about what kind of camper we might want some day. Then we turned in for the night.
From the screen window on our tent we had a clear view of a travel trailer at a campsite across the way from us.We could make out the outlines of comfortable, warm, cozy people watching television. We had camper envy. We were really jealous.Also, we were VERY cold.
After nodding off, we both woke up around 3:30 am absolutely freezing.There was no going back to sleep at this point.This was Florida!What the hell?We put on pretty much every single piece of clothing that we had with us.We were getting cold from the ground up, so we let air out of the air mattress thinking that the air in the mattress was keeping us cold. We took the quilt that was covering us and put it underneath us. Now we were cold on top. We tried to both cram into the only sleeping bag we had with us.We were miserable and I was pretty sure I was starting to get a sore throat.
Even though, at this point we were probably more tired than we have ever been, at first light we got up and started packing our stuff.There was no point in staying.We were in no mood to hike and all we wanted to do was get home.When we got up, we realized that there was frost on everything!How cold was it???I looked at the thermometer I had recently added to our camping gear.It was 35 degrees and all we had had with us to keep warm was a summer quilt!
Thirty five degrees!That was the last straw!We were now officially in the market for a camper. Consuming large amounts of caffeine, we drove 13 hours from the panhandle of Florida back to Austin, Texas and spoke almost exclusively of our necessity for a camper.We were going to somehow make it happen!This was now more important to us than the vague social concept that one must buy a traditional home first.
Because of my parents RV, the concept of RVing was now on our radar, though it would be at least ten years before we would entertain the idea of getting one ourselves. Rob and I started to take notice of them everywhere we went. We started to realize that the different kinds of RV’s that exist is vast! We noticed them on the road, we noticed dealerships on the side of the road that for some reason had been completely invisible in the past, and we noticed them in campgrounds, now with some curiosity rather than scorn.
We went on a few overnight trips and did various fund raising events with my parents in their RV for their dearest cause, the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation. We had a ton of fun!We met other RVrs.They are some of the most friendly and warm people you will ever encounter.They are also extremely enthusiastic about their rigs and will gladly answer any questions you might have.We started to amass a bit of experience and jargon to go with it…. Despite being somewhat fascinated, it still seemed like something other people did, not us.
The thought that we could be a part of this interesting little club had not occurred to us yet; though my mom every once in a while would subtly suggest it and point out small campers that might be appropriate for us… We just thought, “it is nice for you, but no, that’s not us.”I am certain that this block existed because we are absolutely NOT the typical demographic that the RV market appeals to and we never once saw people like ourselves with an RV.It is no secret that the largest population of RVrs is retired folks; we actually partied with a lot of retired people during this process…The second largest population is families with children.We are a very long way from being retired and we have no plans to have children.
We are artists, we are theater people, we are a fucking rock band!AND then, that is where this all started to make sense for us.Touring.Between 2005 and 2011, we had been doing a lot of it.There were certainly mornings that we woke up not knowing where we were geographically or whose house we had crashed at, not because of being intoxicated, but rather because we were working hard and constantly on the go. We thought, wouldn’t it be nice to sleep in the same bed every night?
We are not famous or on a record label, our tours are completely self-funded.We were crashing at the houses of generous friends and family, staying in really crappy hotels and every once in a while even tent camping while on the road and performing in clubs.We were often exhausted, getting very little quality sleep and eating poorly (especially bad for someone with Type 1 Diabetes).
The idea of getting an RV started to become a big fantasy.We would talk about it and imagine ourselves with our own mobile bed, kitchen and bathroom. Even though this fantasy was starting to bloom, it still seemed like it stopped there.We thought, one day, maybe we will be able to afford such a luxury.We also thought that it was important to buy a house before we bought something seemingly frivolous and of our fantasies like a Recreational Vehicle, even if it was for work………………………………….
Too be continued!
Update: 2/3/16 – We no longer perform as Before Dawn, from Austin, TX. We have an L.A. based rock band called JagLyonz, if you want to know more about us go to www.JagLyonz.com. Here are a few photos from the old Before Dawn days!